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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 17, 2007 6:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

to know him (Pigpen) was to love him - Ron (Pigman) was the coolest, nicest, warmest, most generous member of the Grateful Dead ever.
Period.

I saw him perform live 5 times.

I didn't meet him personally, but several of my closest friends hung out with him.

He was the only Dead member who was outright friendly to them, though Garcia did throw in the occassional quip
...like R. Crumb tends to do -- but it was Rick Griffin who was down right friendly out of all the poster Zap (1st string) comix artists.

Pigpen even gave kids free tix from time to time - the other guys couldn't be bothered with that shit, tho Garcia did give away some free coke backstage one time to a fan (so I've heard) from the huge chunk someone gave him.


Was Pigpen a great singer?

No.

But he had soul.

A bit more than most of the San Francisco hippie muscians of his day, no matter how cool they were.

Runners up might include John Cipollina and to a much lesser extent, Garcia.

But forget about the Airplane guys, all on ego trips after 1966; and the other Quicksilver dudes;

Well, the 2nd Airplane drummer was friendly (Spencer Dryden), and the 1st Airplane drummer Skip was a trip, as in tripped out, but was in moments of clarity, a really nice guy.

The nicest, coolest of all the SF hippie band members was imho Janis Joplin.

It figures she hooked up for a while with Pigpen.


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Poster: rosey842 Date: Nov 17, 2007 9:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

Thank you for the post & pictures. The first time I logged onto this site for a long time. No wonder I don't do it much anymore. Seems some things don't change, with the bozo's, etc. Pigpen just always seemed like such a genuine soul. Sorry I wasn't there to see him.

The picture of Grace in her prime--wow! No wonder I thought her daughter China was so hot on MTV while growing up. Thanks again.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 17, 2007 9:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

u bet rosey.

yeah, Grace had the looks. Did China have a show on MTV?

I never sawr it. Awwrr!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 17, 2007 7:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

I have to agree with you CPW on Airplane personnel, by and large...especially Kantner. What a prick, at times...really on an ego trip it seemed to me.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 17, 2007 7:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

right WT, about Kantner.

And Balin, not exactly Santa Claus either. Should have retired "Grace"fully years ago.

You know who was really nice at least on stage in the Airplane scene?

Papa John Creach.

That old guy would pick someone out in the audience and play directly to them, while smiling and looking at them right in the eyes.

He did that for me at least once.







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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 17, 2007 8:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: PigPen and 'Space'

Oh yeah! Loved Papa John...saw him a number of times; great old guy. Nice pick of Grace; she really was beautiful.

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